11.01.2009 - Episode #208 - Detective Comics #858
Running Time: 01:00:12
November 1, 2009 - It's a big show this week as a ton of books came out and Josh, Conor and Ron were overwhelmed. So overwhelmed in fact that they had to resort to emergency measures...THE BELL! That's right, The Bell is back! Long time listeners will be excited by this news, while new users may be confused, but we're sure you'll dig it.
Comics:
00:01:45 - Conor couldn't ignore the masterwork in Detective Comics #858
00:12:15 - But Blackest Night #4, again was really good
00:16:42 - Green Lantern #47 moved the story forward a bit, but Josh complained about the art
00:18:52 - Everyone loved Superman: Secret Origins #2
00:21:35 - Ron was blown away by the violence and ending of Dark Reign: The List - The Punisher
00:25:01 - Josh found a lot of similarity to Invincible Iron Man in the pages of New Avengers #58
00:27:19 - The insanity is back and Ron is giggling again over X-Men Forever #10
BRING ON THE BELL
00:33:35 - Conor - World's Finest #1
00:33:52 - Josh - Nova #30
00:34:07 - Ron - Northlanders #21
00:34:25 - Conor - Marvel Divas #4
00:34:44 - Josh - Abe Sapien Special
00:35:01 - Ron - X-Factor #50
00:35:16 - Conor - Ultimate Armor Wars #2
00:35:35 - Josh - Astro City Special: Astra #2
00:35:52 - Ron - New Mutants #6
00:36:09 - Conor - Wolverine: Weapon X #6
00:36:27 - Josh - Guardians of the Galaxy #19
00:36:44 - Ron - Dynamo 5 #25
User Reviews:
00:37:30 - Doomwad gets poetic with enjoyment of Fantastic Four #572
00:39:25 - JoseRivera83 was surprised by Blackest Night: Titans #3
Email:
00:44:00 - Bryan from Bananatonio, TX wants to know if we wrote about comics in college.
00:48:15 - JediRob wrote in because he's having continuity issues within the world of Superman, as caused by Blackest Night: Superman
Voicemail:
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Etc.:
00:53:25 - Talksplodes aplenty! Last week Ron spoke with Brian Wood about Northlanders #21 and Josh talked to IDW Editor Andy Schmidt. Stay tuned this week for even MORE Talksplodes!
00:54:54 - Did you have a good Halloween? Send us your costume pics - full details from Gordon The Intern
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Comments
Aww, yay, the bell. And Ron talking X-Men Forever, looks like good times.
Posted by ohcaroline on 11/01/09 at 06:11 PMi do love me some bell.
Posted by TehDave on 11/01/09 at 06:14 PMI love Misfits!! Wow, that's the first good song I EVER seen you guys put on this show!
Posted by robbydzwonar on 11/01/09 at 06:20 PMThe Misfits today! We can be friends!!
Posted by PymSlap on 11/01/09 at 06:30 PMRon talking about X-Men Forever--hell ya. The bell--hell ya.
Posted by flapjaxx on 11/01/09 at 06:32 PMThanks as always, gentlemen! Your show is an integral part of my Sunday routine.
Posted by AMuldowney on 11/01/09 at 06:35 PMBELLL!!!!!! YESSSS!!! HUZZZAH, SIR! I SAID HUZZAAAH!
Posted by jackietam on 11/01/09 at 06:36 PMI loved Fantastic Four this week. the moment of the week was Reed's relief when he realised he had outrun the Celestial. Brilliant
Posted by edward on 11/01/09 at 06:51 PMOK, I just want to make a few points about Blackest Night.
First off, well done Conor for not picking it. I thought there were a number of books that came out this week that were light years ahead of it, including at least one other Geoff Johns book.
I don't agree that it suffers from the same pacing problems as the Sinestro Corps Wars because while that was slowish in the middle this has been ostensibly four months of not very much happening at all. Don't get me wrong I've been enjoying it enough but, holy hell, is it trying my patience.
I'm also still rather underwhelmed by the Barry Allen that Geoff Johns has been writing. He's different from Wally, sure but he's mainly different by being a 1000x more bland. Hell, compared to even some of Barry's past modern day appearances, as mostly done by Mark Waid, I'm unimpressed by him here.
The biggest problem however is that Blackest Night has basically been a support book for where the real heart of the story lies: Green Lantern. This entire issue was NOTHING but some earth heroes holding down the fort while the real heavy lifting is done by the various corps in GL and GLC.
As it stands right now, it's looking like Blackest Night is a kick ass Green Lantern story much like The Sinestro Corps War stuck in a bloated DC-wide mega event. And that's a great, great pity.
Posted by Ilash on 11/01/09 at 07:00 PMIt kind of annoys me how everyone is talking about Punisher: The List but not Punisher #10. Punisher kills his own family goddamnit!
Posted by miyamotofreak on 11/01/09 at 07:02 PMAlso, as far as GL, goes, I agree with the art complaints. The thing about Mahnke is that he is a guy whose quality is very dependant on the inker he's working with. GL had two different inkers and once again the difference is very noticable.
Posted by Ilash on 11/01/09 at 07:03 PMthose drawer boxes sound awesome!
Posted by Gabe on 11/01/09 at 07:05 PM@Gabe
Seriously. I may have to get them.
Posted by miyamotofreak on 11/01/09 at 07:07 PMI MADE THE SHOW! Thanks GUYS!
Posted by Jedimasterrob2001 on 11/01/09 at 07:39 PMHooray for the Bell!
Posted by OwlyFan on 11/01/09 at 07:48 PMDID anyone notice that Young Kate and Alice had winter clothes in Detective Comics that reflected each character's specific page layouts from the first arc?
Just another level to the artwrok and story. That's why i read comics
Posted by edward on 11/01/09 at 07:55 PMI'm new to The Bell, it reminds me of Pardon The Interuption on ESPN...I thought it would be cool to do a show like that, you should do it more often!
Posted by comicBOOKchris on 11/01/09 at 10:14 PMI haven't heard the show yet, but on the subject of The List - Punisher: a week or so ago, I was reading one of the other List books when Norman yet again failed to check something off and it belatedly occurred to me: of course he can't check anything off. Look what's on the list: eliminate Daredevil. Eliminate the Hulk. Kill Spider-Man.
"He can't actually do any of that stuff," I said to no one in particular. "Oh!... Oh my God. It's World War Hulk all over again. We know going into it everything that's going to happen in the end. Ugh."
It was with that mindset that I began reading the Punisher's chapter. "Sure, he WANTS to kill Frank Castle. But... it's Frank Castle. Before the first shot is fired, we already know that he's... I mean... it's not like Daken's actually going to... oh. Oh! Oh, my God! Did he just--?! Holy--!! He just--!! OH MY GOD."
Thank God I forgot I'd heard the word "Frankencastle" before seeing the last page.
Posted by Jimski on 11/01/09 at 10:47 PMWhen I saw the panel of Daken slicing off Castle's arm off....
I literally yelled 'Holy Shit' at my LCS.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/01/09 at 11:56 PMThank you for bringing the bell back. Long live the bell!
Posted by WonderManFan on 11/02/09 at 12:32 AMRon isnt's far off from saying the stuff in Superman Secret Origins #2 looked similar.
Some of those panels have the same diaologue from the 'Legion of Superheroes' arc from last year. Plus the panels are the same but I think Frank flipped the scene to make it look new.
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/02/09 at 12:51 AMAlso, X-Men Forever will never die! We must have the discussion every week to keep our sanity in check. Even if it means Ron has to go insane to keep it going...
Posted by TheNextChampion on 11/02/09 at 01:01 AMWow! I got a review of mine read on the show! That's really awesome! Thank you!
Posted by JoseRivera83 on 11/02/09 at 01:39 AMA normal person would've messed up but Conor just made that DrawerBox promo his bitch. LOL!
Posted by HermitHomeboy on 11/02/09 at 03:00 AMAt first I thought yup, "Conor would pick that". And then I read a borrowed copy and then I thought "What?"
Posted by JumpingJupiter on 11/02/09 at 11:06 AMDamn, you guys sure had a fun time recording this one! Fun show
Posted by drakedangerz on 11/02/09 at 11:20 AMman why does Josh sound like he's on AM Radio
Posted by convoy83 on 11/02/09 at 11:33 AMI don't see how Blackest Night and Sinestro Corps are even remotely the same in the ways that you guys were saying they were. Sure, Sinestro Corps had some tie-ins--about 8-10 issues, total. Blackest Night will have like 80 tie-in issues, all told. The pacing isn't the same, either. And Sinestro Corps had a core storyline that bounced back and forth between clearly numbered GL and GLC issues. Blackest Night has the one "Blackest Night" series, but then everyone knows that GL (and to a slightly lesser extent GLC) is a must-read as well, and the problem with that is that everyone's forever asking "Which do I read first, the new BN issue or the new GL(C) issue?", because the storyline isn't numbered the way Sinestro Corps was.
Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying Blackest Night about as much as I did Sinestro Corps (I give them both about a 4/5 overall), but I totally get the complaints that are beginning to surface regarding DC's management of BN, which makes the event seem more bloated, makes its chronology questionable, and makes everyone wonder if 80% of the comics that say "Blackest Night" on them are really important or not. I totally agree that you don't have to buy all of them--or any of them--but I think that DC's management of the event, especially the proliferation of tie-ins, is proving to be less than ideal.
Posted by flapjaxx on 11/02/09 at 11:35 AMI actually don't see much of a difference b/w Blackest Night proper and the Superman/Batman mini's, save a reveal or two. They're doing the exact same thing - just showing different heroes and their reactions to the Black Lanterns. I wouldn't say the plot is really moving forward though
Not a criticism, just an observation
Posted by cutty on 11/02/09 at 12:27 PMGreat show!
You guys actually seemed to enjoy BN a lot more than I did this week. Great selection of books overall.
It is a shame that you guys couldn't get to the calls tho. Maybe if you had another outlet/medium where you could talk about comics...
I Know! A Video Show! You wouldn't even have to talk about the recently released comics. You could talk about great runs, the collected works of a creator, and maybe even fun stuff like exploring the New York as it is represented in the Marvel U!
*sigh*
This is me. Right Clicking "Update Podcast" even tho I know nothing is there.
Posted by Unoob on 11/02/09 at 01:34 PMThe "white power" comment had me excited, because I was expecting something like that holocaust "denial" from the video show. Of course, holocast are crazy people with tin foil hats, so its easy comedy.
Posted by muddi900 on 11/02/09 at 03:39 PMI meant holocaust deniars.
Posted by muddi900 on 11/02/09 at 03:48 PMI just went back to check out the white queen from NY comic con. Not bad, but she has nothing on Jimski and his "lick" from SDCC this year. I'd wager that Jimski is still getting emails from potential suitors.
Posted by stuclach on 11/02/09 at 04:13 PMI dunno if this is the White Queen referenced but what the heck...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bellechere/2438217284/in/photostream/
Posted by wjibaja on 11/02/09 at 04:47 PM@wjibaja: No, that's not her.
Posted by conor on 11/02/09 at 04:48 PMYou know, I'm enjoying the Osborn story, but I don't have any desire to read a dozen books about people fighting with their dead loved ones. To each their own.
Posted by ohcaroline on 11/03/09 at 08:10 AM@wjibaja - http://www.ifanboy.com/podcasts/video/iFanboy_-_Episode__110_-_New_York_Comic_Con_2009_-_Part_2 at about the 33 minute mark. She's not wearing much. After you watch that you should jump back to the 30 minute mark and watch Paul berate Ron. Then read the comments. Good fun.
Posted by stuclach on 11/03/09 at 09:16 AMThanks for using my review on the show - very cool!!!
Posted by doomwad on 11/03/09 at 07:07 PMBananatonio's actually quite nice this time of year...
Posted by FunkhornLeghorn on 11/03/09 at 10:09 PM@stuclach
@wjibaja
The white queen is actually on Episode 109 at the 33 minute mark.
Posted by thescimitar on 11/04/09 at 10:02 AM@thescimitar - Sorry about that. I linked to 110, but it is 109. I still suggest everyone skip back to the 30 minute mark and watch Paul.
Posted by stuclach on 11/04/09 at 12:26 PMAnything that you can say, "... and only three photos exist from that night" is either awesome or illegal.
Posted by captbastrd on 11/06/09 at 02:47 AMComplete with evil red eyes.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66064297@N00/3268970701/
Posted by Kaylon on 11/06/09 at 03:43 PMI know I'm late and no one is reading, but never mind, a fella has to vent.
Superman: Secret Origin was competent but very dull. I realise the original Adventure Comics #247 presents the Legion as psychos but at least there was inventiveness there. Geoff Johns subtracted that and added nothing. The team just shows up. Oh well, at least they cheered the thoroughly Smallvilled Clark up a tad.
I don't get how folks can have a problem with the Legion's many characters but not. say, the dozens of far more similar in concept Green, Yellow or Chocolate Sprinkle Lanterns.
Speaking of which, while listening to this episode I realised that I can't recall a single moment in the Sinestro Corps War, despite reading the whole thing. All I see in my head are juandiced crowd scenes. Yet I can recall chapter and verse of the original Crisis on Infinite Earths, which was two decades ago. I think that's partly because Geoff's GL stories just go on and on, rambling away with prologues, epilogues and Yule logs. I'd like shorter events with sharper focus.
Posted by Mart on 11/10/09 at 05:02 PM


great music choice :)
Posted by peterporker on 11/01/09 at 06:07 PM